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[–] smegforbrains@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

What's your argument here? That this could have happened in Germany also? It's true, but it didn't happen here, so we have to deal with the situation at hand.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes that's exactly my point. You've been burning coal and will keep burning coal for over a decade because you turned off the nuclear. You should have kept them.

[–] smegforbrains@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Still it didn't happen and we have to deal with the situation at hand. I don't think there's value in discussing a scenario that is not reality in Germany.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The value is in holding the absolute morons and oil/fossil bootlickers accountable. By the way, you've been quite profilic in defending hydrogen and dismissing the fact that it was a huge mistake to close down nuclear power plants. You don't happen to be an astroturfer by chance, do you?

[–] smegforbrains@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago

No argument offered here. Ad hominem fallacy again.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is it not possible to start them again?

I would also point out that people claiming that stopping nuclear was a success story for the environment are rewriting reality and that everyone else in other countries sees this.

[–] smegforbrains@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

No it's not possible at the moment because there's a law in place called the "Atomgesetz" which would have to be changed first and there is no support in the populace for that. Five of the six power plants that have been shutdown in the past few years could technically be restarted in 1-2 years but the 2000 personnel required are not available anymore, and won't come back if there's no perspective for next couple of years. This perspective does not exist in Germany at the moment, since the plan is to move to renewables and green hydrogen power plants.

Sources: https://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/energie/energie-forderungen-aus-bayern-lassen-sich-stillgelegte-atomkraftwerke-einfach-wieder-hochfahren/28550996.html

https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/wissen/atomkraft-deutschland-debatte-wiedereinstieg-klimaziele-100.html

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's a shame. Still it is technically possible, this is a political issue more than anything by the sounds of it.

[–] smegforbrains@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's a social issue. There is no acceptance in the populace and politicians have only reacted to that.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Social issues are political issues