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[–] daedramachine@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Our individual senses/perception has its limits as well yet we also surpass these limits through social interactions, there is no concept-idea of free will in a vaccuum.

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I agree, things are complex. I just think free will implies humans are above the material world in some way. That a porcupine will simply react to it's senses in accordance with how it evolved and the current conditions, while humans have some sort of metaphysical "control."

[–] daedramachine@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Expand on the so called material and the so called metaphysical as used here

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Material is that which is real. Metaphysical Can mean a lot of things, but I intend it as beyond physical reality. I am suggesting that even secularized “free will” believers believe in a “soul” of sorts.