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[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 87 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What is "five times shorter?" Is that one fifth as long? We can't really measure the shortness of a thing, only its length.

Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine.

[–] Grass@geddit.social 14 points 1 year ago

I would have commented just this and nothing else if you weren't already doing god's work.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The shortness of a thing is an aspect of its length. Your comment makes no sense. Five times shorter means that you can play Mirage five times in the same time it takes to play Valhalla once. I'm pedantic as hell but this comes off to me as fake pedantry.

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I'm being quite pedantic, but it is genuine. It's a common language mistake that frustrates me.

Don't try to multiply a relative descriptor when you can use hard numbers (i.e. it's 20 hours shorter) or the appropriate relative measurement (i.e. it's 20% as long). It's both improper English and less clear (maybe "2 times harder to understand"?) to do so.

[–] MostlyLazy@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It should have said "...is 0.2 times longer"

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, that would be 20% longer, not five times shorter.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

20% longer means 120% of the length.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes but how girthy is it?

[–] MostlyLazy@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, good point. May just be clear and say "It is 1/5th the length"?

[–] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

0.2 times the length of*

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 year ago

0.2 times as long.

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I read that as 20% longer.. aka 120% the length.

What about "...is 0.2 times the length"

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think we can measure your shortness of breath right there, tho

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 year ago

Nope, but you can measure my respiratory rate.