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[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

You cannot call safety a "natural selection" issue. I know you're being deliberately offensive but do you really believe that it applies in cases where innocent pedestrians or other drivers pay the price for someone else's bad driving?

With public transport the operators can be made to have a higher level of training as well as more checks and opportunity for enforcement.

Interestingly, you ignored my scalability argument, we can't just keep adding lanes to roads. We also can't just keep adding carriages to trains or more frequent services but it is a lot cheaper to do than re-engineer a busy road

[–] ajsadauskas@aus.social 3 points 8 months ago

@unionagainstdhmo @muntedcrocodile Munted crocodile (by the way, I love your username), I'm genuinely curious about something.

So let's get this straight. You don't like 'socialism', and you don't like governments providing services to citizens, and you're a fan of social Darwinism.

If that's the case, what in the bloody hell are you doing in Canberra?!

Seriously, the whole town is basically public servants, defence personnel, consultants, contractors, and the people who provide services to them.

And yeah, if you're being directly or indirectly paid by taxpayers, then of course you're going to vote for parties that support government services.

With the light rail, the issue at this stage is that the network isn't extensive enough yet. And the solution is more light rail.

It's fantastic if you live between Gungahlin and Civic. Public transport along its own dedicated right of way spends a lot less time in traffic. But it needs to be rolled out further for more people to gain the benefits.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I can and i will call safety a natural selection issue. Stand on road -> get hit by truck -> die -> gene pool has less stand on road genes. Same applies to rail lines and phylosophically i would argue same should applie to many other things.

Ill keep ignore ur scalability concerns untill u can tell my why on gods green earth i should spend an hour commutting instead of 10mins driving.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying people shouldn't use the footpath. Because, crazy thing is cars and trucks sometimes leave the road. A young couple was killed in QLD last year or the year before and they were just using the footpath. I guess we should select against the "go for a walk gene". (Obviously using the footpath or standing on the road isn't a genetic property that natural selection can effect)

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wow there is another crazy thing that happens sometimes trains come off their rails and busses have all the same problems as cars the only thing they win out on is efficiency.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 3 points 8 months ago

Any idiot can drive a car, you need consistent training and qualifications to drive a bus or train

[–] thesorehead@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Imagine believing in stand on road genes.