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went to my first protest today :33 (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

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[-] N_Crow@leminal.space 27 points 4 months ago

I'm not american. Why not bring your phone? Around here as long as you have a legion of people pointing cameras at cops they'll not outright beat you senseless since it'll be impossible to lie about some bullshit justification about how you did something first.

[-] kennismigrant@feddit.nl 67 points 4 months ago

Why not bring your phone?

Your SIM/IMEI are tied to your ID. The police can visit you at home later. Details depend on the country.

[-] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago

Flight mode?

[-] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 20 points 4 months ago

Don't trust the surveillance device to turn off because you ask nicely. Leaving it at home helps sell the idea that you weren't at the protest you were at.

[-] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Do you actually know anything about software or are you just saying things

[-] kennismigrant@feddit.nl 4 points 4 months ago

If you have an iPhone you can go ahead and try Flight Mode right now. You'll see that it disconnects from WiFi and disables cellular. NFC, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi stay powered on, Bluetooth stays active. Yes, latest iOS has Bluetooth tracking protection on by default (varies by country, illegal in some), but it is not completely safe. I'm not sure about NFC and Wi-Fi. If you power the phone off it is unlikely to turn off the radios - they are needed for "find my iPhone" and similar features on Google and Samsung Galaxy phones.

Overall you can't be confident that your phone does not reveal your location and identity to "law enforcement", especially in places where police is well equipped to track you.

[-] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Find my phone doesnt work if your phone isnt connected to the network, let alone if its turned off. Stop spreading misinformation

[-] kennismigrant@feddit.nl 3 points 4 months ago

iPhone clearly says it is findable after power off

[-] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Funnily enough, mu iPhone doesnt say anything about that

EDIT: in the phones that do have it, the find my phone thing works using bluetooth. So still no data directly to the carrier

Your local police department doesn’t have access to this. And they don’t need that, they can just arrest you. You are there in person. That’s the point of a protest.

[-] kennismigrant@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago

And they don’t need that, they can just arrest you

I run faster than cunts in riot gear. I wouldn't be typing this otherwise.

[-] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Oh common what the fuck are you talking about

[-] Micromot@feddit.de 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm pretty sure the SIM still connects to cell towers even if you have mobile data deactivated

Edit: on most phones it prevents the connection but there are still other ways to track like GPS

[-] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago

The GPS data will not be sent to the carrier, will it? And your phone will only be searched if they can tell its you in the first place. In which case you got caught physically there anyway.

Also this no id thing is confusing to me. I guess its just american law. In many other countries, they just jail you until you tell them who you are.