Matrix has great bots (moderation and otherwise). You just need to make your own matrix server or join one that has this stuff enabled. Developers arent „users“ they’re tech and they should absolutely be able to configure mod bots and such.

I get that matrix isnt as easy as discord and it never will be/should be. Corpo Media is an ad machine to make money. Thats why they‘re so streamlined. You can join matrix.org today and discuss with thousands of folks in many communities.

Feel like making your own? Then do it. It’s becoming easier day by day to host your own.

[–] sweng@programming.dev 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is a big difference between "is unable to maintain bots due to lack of skills" and "is unable to maintain bots due to lack of time and motivation".

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There is a big difference between maintain and download a docker-compose.yml and typing docker compose up -d

[–] sweng@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What about security updates? What about monitoring? What about the underlying infrastructure? What about even picking what software to use and configuring it?

I haven't heard of docker compose up guess-what-i-want-and-just-do-it yet, but I guess there is some LLM that can hallucinate one for you.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 8 months ago

Obviously, having discord gobble up your data is more comfortable in any case. Still, its not that hard, especially for a tool as popular as matrix. I‘m not saying its no work, I‘m saying its not much.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 0 points 8 months ago

Don't fret, it's people with your mindset that will survive the impending AI tech employment apocalypse.

[–] brayd@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ideally "users" wouldn't only be IT guys but also an average person. Some of my friends use Matrix to message me. They certainly are no developers or have technical IT knowledge. They certainly don't know how to set up a bot. With discord you just add a bot to your server (equivalent to a Matrix Space) and there you go. That's user friendly. Matrix bots work yes. But they are by far not user friendly.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 0 points 8 months ago

We‘re talking about wildly different things here.

A „user“ is not the person making a server (discord or matrix for that matter)
A developer (which are the people making FOSS projects, which were the topic) is absolutely a tech person
A matrix bot can just be invited to your space
Hosting your own bot is downloading a script, changing some values and starting it
Matrix is a couple years old and written by hobbyists, discord is a for profit product with dark patterns to suck people into paying for basic features

Please dont use these ignorant arguments, its obvious that matrix is the better choice if someone can afford the time to get to know it or just joins a server.