Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
Rules
Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people
Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren't talking over men expressing their own lived experiences.
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Be proactive in forming a productive discussion. Constructive criticism of our community is fine, but if you mainly criticize feminism or other people's efforts to solve gender issues, your post/comment will be removed.
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- Build upon the OP
- Discuss concepts rather than semantics
- No low effort comments
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Do not call other submitters' personal experiences into question.
No bigotry
Slurs, hate speech, and negative stereotyping towards marginalized groups will not be tolerated.
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Do not participate if you have been linked to this discussion from elsewhere. Similarly, links to elsewhere on the threadiverse must promote constructive discussion of men’s issues.
Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
Related Communities
!feminism@beehaw.org
!askmen@lemmy.world
!mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world
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It was really good, many great points, many funny moments, solid work.
one point I liked was the point that many fantasies from women involve being strongly desired, and that incels are, in part, very frustrated that they've never felt desireable at all.
The observation that incels crave to be desired, made me empathize more with them - great observation.
Couple that with the expectation that you will be the one initiating every encounter and escalation.
Like, women have fantasies of being strongly desired, but imagine you've never felt desired in your entire life and you also are expected to always be the one to make the first move, to have to take positive action to even move from socially invisible to desired or rejected (and most often the latter).
Sadly they don't see, how they enforce structures that are source of their own suffering.