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[–] Deebster@programming.dev 234 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I assume this latest bump is due to lemmy.world updating and now counting lurkers when assessing active users.

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 174 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Its still only voters, lurkers that dont do any actions arent counted

[–] Katzastrophe@feddit.de 93 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget that Reddit was made up of 90% lurkers, and less than 1% of active posters, the rest would comment but rarely post themselves. These numbers are great if we keep those statistics in mind

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Commenters were already counted, though, so this bump is really just the vote-only population getting added. Which is still important to maintaining a healthy and varied front-page, mind you.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Why are they not separated out in any way? There should be separate bins for “active posters” “active commenters” and “active voters”. Otherwise you’re going to get some wacky data problems like this.

[–] Deebster@programming.dev 48 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think of a lurker as someone who doesn't post - I guess your definition is someone who doesn't interact at all (besides making an account and subscribing, I assume). But yes, I mean users who only vote are now counted (it's not using views afaik).

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Probably a lot more to do with people being pissed about reddit going public and selling their data to ai companies for profits.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to think that too but I still go to Reddit and browsed a lot of those threads. In almost all of them, people were making the claim that there was nowhere to go, with maybe the occasional person chiming in to name-drop Lemmy, followed by a couple more comments from people bad-mouthing it.

People are definitely mad at Reddit but there does seem to still be this overall sense that Lenny is not good enough yet

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy is more work to get on and then find an apk to use. There needs to just be a simple and clear instruction set to get people over. Like a link to an instance they can easily join and here's a good app to use. Sort by /all and top from last 24 hours.

Right now there are waaaay less users, so content is low compared to reddit, and you can't just create your own sub at the drop of a hat.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Encouraging everyone onto a single instance kinda defeats the purpose, and I feel it's not as much of an issue with the new join-lemmy.com redesign, which recommends an instance based on your interests.

I wrote up this post for anyone to reference to help onboard people to lemmy.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I guess, but I haven't noticed a whole lot of point in picking an instance of interest, since a small amount of content comes from them all right now. I added a ton of instances to my feed so I've never noticed tchncs prioritized or specific to myself.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If everyone dogpiles into a single generic instance, it could push that instance into unsustainable territory financially (especially with a mass exodus), unless the user base is willing to donate to support the instance. Spreading the load out over many instances would ease the load on any one server admin.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe make an auto sorting pool that instances sign up for and just evenly assign new users an instance, so they don't even have to "try hard" to choose one, then?

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I feel like the local community aspect of small and medium sized instances is a pretty big plus of lemmy. I can click 'local' and get a nice view of what my particular community is doing at the moment, which happens to be things I'm interested in.

Is it truly that off-putting to new users to pick a single category that interests them, then their language, then just pick one of the suggested instances at random? There's even a 'general' category they can pick if they simply cannot decide on any other interest.

Every other social media site I've signed up to, including reddit, has made me select from a list of interests before letting me use the site so they can populate my feed with related things, presumably to enhance engagement and stop me from growing disinterested too quickly.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Pretty sure it's the jean/bean memes