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What is a gender neutral replacement for man, guys, buddy, etc? (lemmy.ca)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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So I've realized that in conversations I'll use traditional terms for men as general terms for all genders, both singularly and for groups. I always mean it well, but I've been thinking that it's not as inclusive to women/trans people.

For example I would say:

"What's up guys?" "How's it going man?" "Good job, my dude!” etc.

Replacing these terms with person, people, etc sounds awkward. Y'all works but sounds very southern US (nowhere near where I am located) so it sounds out of place.

So what are some better options?

Edit: thanks for all the answers peoples, I appreciate the honest ones and some of the funny ones.

The simplest approach is to just drop the usage of guys, man, etc. Folks for groups and mate for singular appeal to me when I do want to add one in between friends.

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[–] unfnknblvbl@beehaw.org 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I really, really wish we could degender "guy" and "guys". I know plenty of people of all genders that use the words in general to describe people, objects, concepts, everything. The only holdouts are people that insist on it specifically meaning males. Ironically, these people are often the hardcore feminists.

If other English words can change their meanings and be claimed/reclaimed by certain groups, why can't others?

Take guy! Use it to describe whatever you want! Free it of its historically phallic shackles!

[–] frefi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I agree with you gal, while we're at it I wish we could degender "gal", "chick", and "doll" too. Equality for all!

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This sounds not to dissimilar to those who argued that legalizing gay marriage would lead to people marrying horses or their cars.

[–] frefi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago

How's that? I'm not arguing against anything, I said I want more words to be disgendered

How come people seem to only want words that were originally masculine coded words to be disgendered, but don't want that for words that are originally feminine coded?

[–] jabib@beehaw.org 3 points 8 months ago

My car married the horse down the road last year

[–] ready_for_qa@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago

Guy was originally gender neutral as it was used to call someone stupidly bold (iirc). The term was most often used toward a single gender that was known for being stupidly bold and became synonymous with that gender. That's how it became gendered.