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[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 months ago

The George W. Bush administration (and the burgeoning WWW 2.0) allowed me to look back and realize that since Reagan the US has been on the express train to fascism, autocracy and genocide. Scholars point out the Southern Strategy and the Moral Majority were active responses to the end of segregation and the legalization of interracial marriage. And then Behind The Bastards dated it back to industrialists living the good live during the Great Depression being sore about the New Deal, and their plot to repurpose Christianity and patriotism to create an American order of feudalism and fascism.

And here we are with the Heritage Society's Project 2025 looking to seal the deal.

[-] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah... As soon as you realize that slavery is a type of civil war because it's a war on people living in the country, you start to realize that there's never really been a time that the US wasn't in a civil war. And when you look at the Red Summer, you see that genocide that's being scheduled now is just part of the regular cycles of America... Like... Maybe a country built on genocide and slavery is a bad idea that can't ever be fixed.

[-] beardown@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Maybe a country built on genocide and slavery is a bad idea that can't ever be fixed.

Agreed, but replacing the United States with a new state, one created with a Constitution 2.0 so to speak, would likely be sufficient if executed properly.

Fundamentally though, we need to remove the current ownership class from power and instead place power within the working class. Oligarchs cannot exist if a society is to be free from fascism

[-] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

When the Romans and later Christians colonized Europe, they systematically exterminated almost all of the indigenous cultures there over the course of hundreds of years. During this process they brought the ideas of states, genocide, and colonization itself. When the Roman state collapsed, these colonized people rebuilt states that ultimately replicated the horrors they experienced across the globe.

Mabye the answer this time isn't "let's rebuild the same atrocity machine." Land Back is an option, and there's even a model we can look to in Norther Syria. I'm just skeptical of any attempt to replace an old state with a new one because it always seems to fail in exactly the same oligarchy/authoritarianism decline in to suffering...and the last few centuries have seen states start to speed run this. Like, AfD is on the rise in Germany and there are literally still WWII vets alive today. Perhaps you're right, but I just don't see how states could be the right option here.

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