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The US primaries and the general election are two different things. Voting uncommitted in the primary expresses support for the Palestinian plight and does not give Republicans any ground.

The uncommitted movement presents a safe and effective avenue for voters to voice dissatisfaction with President Biden’s policies, particularly with the Israel-Hamas conflict. By doing so in the primary, voters can signal discontent without risking a Republican victory in the general election. The purpose is to send a wake-up call to the Biden administration that it is failing to address issues and effectively engage with the party, vis a vis that Biden is enabling a genocide.

That being said, anyone who calls for an uncommitted or third-party vote in the general election i will personally kick in the gender neutral balls (in Minecraft).

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[–] knightly@pawb.social 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you don't want to hear people shit-talking Biden then you need to either avoid politics altogether or stick to a filter bubble that doesn't tolerate such criticism.

[–] horsey@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Who said the issue was I don't want to hear it? I'm here discussing it. My point is that it's counterproductive, unfair, and likely to lead to worse outcomes for the US and the entire world. The #1 issue is "gEnOcIdE jOe" which is kind of ridiculous given that not just Biden but 90% of the US political establishment supported the same policies, AND we'll end up getting genocide Donald, who will throw away Ukraine, run his own genocide on Central Americans in the US, do the same but worse in Israel (Trump recently said Israel should "finish the job"). Hmm, but maybe some people prefer one of those things.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My point is that it's counterproductive, unfair, and likely to lead to worse outcomes for the US and the entire world.

Seems pretty productive to me, we haven't even finished the primaries yet and the sudden drop in support has pushed Biden from "Humanitarian pause" to openly calling for a temporary ceasfire.

At this rate he might even call for a permanemt ceasefire and halt weapons shipments to Israel in time for the general election, but if we don't let the party know they need to change then they won't.

The #1 issue is "gEnOcIdE jOe" which is kind of ridiculous given that not just Biden but 90% of the US political establishment supported the same policies,

Seems like its long past time to stop supporting 90% of the political establishment, then.

maybe some people prefer one of those things.

Admitting that the American public is willing to support genocide out of fear that the wrong genocider might take power is the first step towards changing our political system to send war criminals to the hague instead of the white house.

[–] horsey@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

I saw the 'undecided' crowd (which was a concept that came after criticizing Biden and discouraging voters for months) credited themselves with him making that decision, though I doubt it was the only influence. It's been kind of apparent that political opponents have been using that as an issue against Biden and it is pretty unpopular, not to mention generally wrong, so of course he should change policy. I think they can figure that out themselves too.

Well, if you have figured out a way to stop AIPAC from influencing US politics, great! It's only been about 80 years of sending them billions of dollars in weapons and arms each year. The idea that Americans are going to send their own politicians to international criminal court in the EU is pretty far-fetched. I'd start with Bush, Rice and Cheney personally.