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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Agreed. I’m just looking at the machines that were purchased at the launch of Win 11, but might not have had the proper hardware to transition off 10. I would assume that computers on a that cusp will mostly support 11, but if the extended updates were free, it would ensure those machines would have had 7 years of security updates - which seems like a reasonable lifespan for a computer these days.

Making those updates free would also mean computers that were 13+ years old were also getting security updates, so maybe my recommendation is overkill.

At some point you just need to move on and stop taking customer service calls from people with old hardware.

[–] mark3748@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. I’m just looking at the machines that were purchased at the launch of Win 11, but might not have had the proper hardware to transition off 10.

Windows 11 launched in 2021. The bare minimum hardware (8th gen intel) is from 2017. If you were buying 5+ year old hardware in 2021 then that’s on you.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget the TPM module! Which has also been pretty damn ubiquitous on mobos for a long ass time.

This is all just clickbait and easy upvotes on lemmy with the big pro-linux movement.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

TPM is built into the CPU of all 8th gen and ryzen 2000 series CPUs. The module is only needed for older systems.

[–] mark3748@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago

The module is only needed for older systems.

Not needed at all. If you’re installing it on an older system, you’re already bypassing the requirements so why bother with a TPM?

[–] mark3748@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

The TPM is a hardware feature of every processor that's supported. I really don't understand all of this bullshit, the requirements are basically "don't run this on ancient hardware." That's it.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

7th gen i5 business laptops already had hardware TPMs included.
So I'd guess this is either a heavily business sided feature or most OEM machines (not DIYs motherboards or systemintegrators just buying off-the-shelve hardware in bulk!) like the ones from HP, Dell, Lenovo probably had those fpr whatever reason as well.