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Russian propaganda about France doesn't belong in this community
Yeah, this is a US news and politics community, not sure why random news about France is here...
Russian propaganda is very often exactly the same as Republican propaganda, which is also American.
So what you’re saying is Russia speaks for you on moral issues?
No, I'm staying in this case Russia speaks like republican, and has the guts to go against woke movement.
I like to see people with guts against too much leftist drama and with guts against too much right wing drama.
I’m curious what does “woke movement” mean to you that you need Russia to be your moral guide?
I don't need Russia to be my moral guide. You are too religious about ideologies with your binary "pro Russia vs against Russia" way or seeing life.
I'm non binary, or ideology fluid.
Take some deep breath and relax.
Hakuna matata
No, you said you admire Russia for being “anti woke”. What does that mean? I find it’s usually a dog whistle for racists and homophobes but perhaps I’ve unkindly prejudged you.
First, thanks for the tone of being open to listen.
What I mean is:
An American person would never have have enough room to bring a controversial opinion on taboo topics.
So for instance an American would not have room to challenge the pro-aboriton or usage of neopronouns (because left says it's a taboo to go against it)
And also an American would not have room to go against pro- Israel snetiment (because right say it's a taboo to go against it).
So it takes a non-western press to break the taboo.
Every civilization/people/group/country has some taboos which make them blind. And only external civilizations can challenge that.
I hope my answer was par with the level of trust you gave me.
If not, I'm sorry
It sounds like you’re saying Americans don’t have the freedom to voice unpopular opinions.
Respectfully, that’s a load of BS.
I hear PLENTY from people wanting to outlaw abortion or even birth control. When I say “Free Palestine” I may have to debate someone who supports ethnic cleansing, but that is the hallmark of healthy dialogue.
Americans don’t need to get their talking points from Russia.
You make a lot of assumptions of Americans and commit the same binary-choice fallacy you claim you're against.
Also, just because you say topics are "taboo" does not make them so. That sounds like empty talking points. Supporting non-hetero-normative freedom of self-expression, supporting a person's right to decision making and choice over their own bodies (and let's be clear, there's no such thing as "pro-abortion," that is a propaganda marketing term much like "pro-life"), contesting open genocide and flaunting of international law and order...these are not "taboo" topics. They're acknowledgments of basic human rights that one side has made into personal, political, and culture wars because they no actual polcies or ideas to improve things. It is absurd to label them "taboo" topics in much the same way that calling rape a taboo topic would be.
About pro abortion and pro life being Marketing terms I agree..for instance,.some politicians want to ban abortion of fetus without brains under the motto "anti abortion", but for me this is bullshit.
Up to which week of pregnancy and which conditions would you think it's ok to abort, and above hoe many weeks and conditions would you say it's not ok to abort?
Me personally? I can't ever carry a child physically, so I don't feel that my opinion should ever matter at the individual level (and imo, the choice should always be at the individual level and not societal/political level). Asking for black letters rules and laws for something as gray as abortion is nonsensical imo. There are too many factors and too many circumstantial details that go into a decision like that. I don't personally believe that having a blanket rule (even with exceptions, which are just mini blanket rules within the rule) makes sense because everyone's situation will be different. I'm firmly of the opinion that the person carrying the potential child physically is the only person whose opinion matters. And to be even more "radical," I'm also of the opinion that they should not need an excuse or justification to make that decision. It is their body that acts as the host and they, and they alone, should be the ones who make decisions about their bodies. Full stop.
what the fuck are you talking about? you can advocate your view - we have freedom of speech, the government won't stop you.
There's tons of pro and anti-israeli sentiment to be found.
You just don't' want people to criticize you, and your idiotic decisions.
You don't get that here. Go to russia if you want that.