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Romeo Chicco’s auto insurance rate doubled because of information about his speeding, braking and acceleration, according to his complaint.

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[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah you are a "flight risk" customer or you have other data points that make them think you are worth offering a lower premium.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Think my driving record might have something to to with my options?

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No? There's a minimum base price that you would be charged.

Remember, this is a profitability equation, not a risk assessment. Wearing a Pope hat doesn't make you the Pope.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think it does. Seeing as my record is good, thereby making it easier for me to shop around and get a lower price. I think it’s pretty straightforward.

Someone who pays their premiums and doesn’t get in accidents is profitable.

But again, I don’t know all this to the true - I’d like to see his report vs mine.

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is your record good? I moved years ago and my rate dropped by half.

Was my record better or something? No.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Did you move states? Even cities can matter.

I didn’t mean to suggest that ONLY driving record matters.

If you move to a place known for a lot of uninsured drivers, your rates are gonna increase, for example.

[–] cqthca@reddthat.com 2 points 8 months ago

quit making sense. 😏

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A private business is arbitrarily charging customers for a required service. Living in one postal code or another has no bearing on a driver's actual skill. These people are predatory, pull your head out of your ass.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

As I said before, premiums aren’t just based on driver skill/record.

If you move to an area with high carjacking rates, your premiums will rise.

You sound like a kid who just started paying attention to this stuff. I thought it was common knowledge.

I’ve lived in 5 different places, over 2 countries, with the same car, under the same insurance company. Rates were always different.

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So my premiums are higher in my 20000$ car because Lexus drivers get carjacked in my postal code.

It's not new to me. It's always been stupid and predatory.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You’re hyperfixating on my examples and missing the point (or, more likely, you understand perfectly but don’t want to admit it). Lots of different metrics go into the final number.

Think insurance rates for those owning the easily stolen models of Hyundai vehicles went up? Likewise, SHOULD they go up after it became apparent they were easily stolen?

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The whole thing is predatory and abusive, and is enabled by regulatory capture.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That can be true and it can also be true that accident rates, individual driver history, carjacking rates, weather patterns, and a long list of other things goes into the final number.

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah any arbitrary thing they decide makes them more money, they will include, which is a problem.

[–] cqthca@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I know my credit score has something to do with it, for some reason. I've talked to an insurance actuarial and they use that in their premium formula.

e. as my credit score went +100 pts my insurance went down, co-incidentally? Liability only, so it isn't depreciation of the asset. If anything, on average, an older car would be more dangerous, more liable to have the wheel fall off and collide with a Bentley or something.