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BMW tests next-gen LiDAR to beat Tesla to Level 3 self-driving cars (www.zdnet.com)

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BMW tests next-gen LiDAR to beat Tesla to Level 3 self-driving cars::Tesla's autonomous vehicle tech has been perennially stuck at Level 2 self-driving, as BMW and other rivals try to leapfrog to Level 3.

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[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Currently they seem to be leading the race though even though the competition is using radar and lidar

Edit: Am I wrong?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If buy leading the race you mean the only company to have an actual product available for purchase then yeah.

But the reason they were able to get to market so quickly is because they don't actually have any concerns about it being functional or safe. That's a real boon to them because it helps them move quickly ahead of the competition that do care about those things.

Of course one good argue that an unsafe self-driving system is in fact not a self-driving system and therefore they are not the first to market.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The average consumer would define self driving as "if my car crashes, my car should be sued". Is that how it works with a tesla crash, who pays for that?

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's on the driver's responsibility

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then what's the point in it?

What's the point in a self-driving system that has been babysat in order to ensure it doesn't murder you, random pedestrians and other road users. If I want a car that is unsafe if I take my hands off the wheel I can get a regular car, it already does that.

Tesla themselves call it FSD, Full Self Driving. That is at best false advertising and at worst reckless endangerment. It isn't fully capable, and it requires the driver's attention so it isn't self-driving. Literally every part of its name is wrong.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

It's called FSD beta

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I mean leading the race as in having the most capable sefl driving system in existence which I believe is the case.

I don't know what you're basing the claim on that it's not functional and safe.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am basing my claim on it not being functional and safe.

I'm basing my claim on the fact that it drives into trucks. Since I don't want to be driven into a truck by my car, I would consider that to be a failure state.

Do some research.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think anyone has ever claimed it's flawless. After all it's still in beta version. If you hit a truck it's because the driver wasn't paying attention.

I still don't know what you're basing these claims on except your own opinion apparently. "It's not safe" compared to what? As far as I know Tesla FSD has had less accidents per mile than an average driver.

In the 2nd quarter, we recorded one crash for every 4.41 million miles driven in which drivers were using Autopilot technology (Autosteer and active safety features). For drivers who were not using Autopilot technology (no Autosteer and active safety features), we recorded one crash for every 1.2 million miles driven. By comparison, NHTSA’s most recent data shows that in the United States there is an automobile crash every 484,000 miles.

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Perhaps you should do some more research?