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C++ creator rebuts White House warning (www.infoworld.com)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by seth@lemmy.world to c/programming@programming.dev

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Python is memory safe? Can't you access/address memory with C bindings?

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[–] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

TLDR: But-hurt C++ dev has a hard time accepting that his favorite language is not memory safe.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

C++ is leagues above C in this regard. He's rightly upset that they're lumping the two together.

Bjarne's work for safety profiles could indeed manifest in a solution that guarantees memory safety; time will tell. C++ is a moving target.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

C++ is leagues above C in this regard.

It's really not. It has the same flaws, some libraries that promise to avoid them (as long as you don't hold them wrong - what every single programmer does), and lots and lots of new flaws that may come from anywhere.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 8 months ago

I use C, C++ and Rust in my dayjob.

I don't like C++, but I disagree with your statement.

C++ has:

a string type, which sidesteps error prone buffer juggling.
smart pointers for scope based deallocation.
generic data types. No more hand rolling list and mapping types with void *.

It's obviously still not a fully memory safe language, but it has some perks over C. I'd still much rather be using rust (most of the time).

[–] hunger@programming.dev 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That depends on how you decide which bucket something gets thrown into.

The C++ community values things like the RAII and other features that developers can use to prevent classes of bugs. When that is you yard-stick, then C and C++ are not in one bucket.

These papers are about memory safety guarantees and not much else. C and C++ are firmly in the same bucket according to this metric. So they get grouped together in these papers.