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I hope this isn't out of context, also I don't want to "own the libs" or something here, I'm actually interested.

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[–] Skipcast@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The rest of the world is completely fine without Guns for Everyone™. With that said though it's kinda too late for the US to reign in on gun availability because there's already a shitton of guns everywhere so only law abiding people would turn in their guns. (talking out of my ass but it makes sense to me)

[–] DABDA@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Switzerland

Firearms regulation in Switzerland allows the acquisition of semi-automatic, and – with a may-issue permit – fully automatic firearms, by Swiss citizens and foreigners with or without permanent residence. The laws pertaining to the acquisition of firearms in Switzerland are amongst the most liberal in the world.

There's also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country showing that while the US has a disproportionate amount of guns it isn't actually alone in civilian ownership.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To highlight, you're only allowed to shoot them at gun ranges and are only allowed to carry them to and from the gun range, stashed away in a bag. You can't even pop into the grocery shop on the way. And people actually stick with that.

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And people do go to prison when they don't stick to that. It's effectively just like if you were allowed to shoot guns at a range, but you had to leave it there when you're done.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also every gun owner I've met there seems to agree the rules are sensible. Nobody is complaining they can't open carry or shoot beer bottles in the woods. And at the ranges themselves safety is the very first thing ok everyone's mind and it shows. Liberal gun laws can work if the owners are responsible. Also, if citizens are reasonably well off and taken care of, violence in general is less likely. Compare, for example, with stabbings in the UK.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If we actually focused on our citizens here in the USA, there wouldn't be the level of gun violence we see. Trying to take away firearms or even tell people when and were they can use them is next level stupid. It's just going to have more people in prison and create more cycles of harm.

[–] Aliendelarge@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

In addition to your points, Ipretty strongly agree with the various ideas that all of the bans, gun free zones, and other firearm villification just serves to glorify them to those that would do the rest of us harm. Its a terrible feedback loop that especially seems to impact the rare but terrifying mass killings we've seen over the years.