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Farmed Bluefin Tuna Brands Claim to Be Sustainable. Here’s What Really Happens. (sentientmedia.org)

submitted 7 months ago by usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml to c/green@lemmy.ml

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[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

By that same logic, exploiting and killing humans is sustainable.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean I guess? I don't see a world where humans are eaten to extinction by other humans and since humans aren't really that special, nothing about us would make us unsustainable via farming/husbandry. It seems like you are using a different definition of sustainable then what is commonly understood.

[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's not about being eaten to extinction, obviously, but nice.

If you consider cultivating new zoonotic diseases and pandemics into existence and wasting energy and resources on feeding animals the nutrients that humans can more efficiently benefit from directly to be "sustainable", then I think it's you that is using a definition of sustainable that is different from what is commonly understood.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Sustainability isn't about absolute energy usage or energy usage per capita, or anything like that. It's about ensuring that the activity at it's current level of energy consumption can continue. So if it takes a 1000 acres of land to have a genetically diverse herd of animals that can feed a village of a given size forever, then the fact that 1000 times more calories in the form of anything else could be used on that land instead doesn't mean the herd of animals are unsustainable.

Diseases are a non-sequitur for sustainability discussions as is "wasted" energy. Efficiency is nice, but not necessary for sustainability.