I also remember how we got to WW2 by appeasing the rising fascism instead of debating and disassembling it word for word. If we need to get to the physical violence and war to fight the evil, then we failed the early stages of disproving and debating why it's evil. And then, just like now, its mere idea will rear ist ugly head

[–] McJonalds@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's that you have to disprove it to everyone. the ideology that "our tribe is better than theirs" is a cancer in and of itself so the more people think that and are programmed to tell others the same thing, the harder you have to work you suppress it

[–] WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep, that is how wars of ideas work. You will have to fight generations of reactionaries and debate against those ideas point for point. Before fascism and ultra-nationalism there was the religious "our religion is better than yours". This fanaticism still fuels religious tensions and wars in Middle East, but the reason why in Europe we have so much fewer of these tensions is due to hundreds of years of fighting both in ideas and in wars and revolts. And you should give them no quarter, because they will gather their strength and adepts and will push these ideas again. Education is the best prevention against this cancer

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fascism was defeated in the UK by some clever jokes and having a monarchy.

The UK helped defeat a couple of fascist Regimes through spending the last power of the Empire on it.

Fascist Regimes were defeated, not the concept of fascism.

The concept of fascism is not defeated through violence, it is through education and debate.

You think some young nazi is going to wake up from a baseball to the head and think "oh wow, I was so wrong about the concept of 'might makes right'"

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

People have been doing that for years and it's obvious to anyone with any insight that they won't listen and don't care.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Fascists don't believe in might makes right. If they did, they'd all be liberals and communists, according to the end of WW2. What fascists believe is that their 'enemy' can be crushed because the enemy is too weak and effete to fight back. The proper way to dispel such a notion is to crush them and look fabulous doing it