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For a Universal Declaration on Fediverse Rights, or: At the Core of the Threads-Debate lies a deeper problem: how can the Fediverse grow without losing its soul in the process? (fungiverse.wordpress.com)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by blue_berry@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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[-] Outsider9042@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago

It might have been fake, but weren’t there already reports of Meta blocking links/tags in relation to pixelfed?

If it’s true, they’ve already proven to be a bad faith actor. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re already scraping data from every other instance that federates with them.

At the end of the day, one side will be right. My moneys on the anti-threads side.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago

I don't like the "they haven't done anything bad yet" argument for staying federated, since there are much better reasons for not doing so. They either have already, and we aren't talking about it yet (ex. downranking fediverse content, those closed door meetings with admins), or they are going to once they need to extract a profit.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re already scraping data from every other instance that federates with them.

I would be surprised if they aren't already, and they're likely scraping data from the defederated instances as well.

I think microblog instances should stay federated because that's the best way to fight against threads. (longer discussion here: https://lemmy.ca/post/11771031)

[-] Blaze@dormi.zone 6 points 3 months ago

Yes: https://mastodon.social/@dansup/112126250737482807

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

but weren’t there already reports of Meta blocking links/tags in relation to pixelfed?

Much more likely a result of Meta's notoriously shitty auto moderation algorithms than anything nefarious. I promise Meta is not risking the bad press and potential legal litigation to censor a service with 22k MAU.

they’ve already proven to be a bad faith actor.

They've done this for decades.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re already scraping data from every other instance that federates with them.

I don't know why people keep spreading this nonsense. If your instance is publicly visible (which it is) then Meta is likely already scraping it. They do not need federation to do that.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't know why people keep spreading this nonsense. If your instance is publicly visible (which it is) then Meta is likely already scraping it. They do not need federation to do that.

They do it because they want to make the "Meta is already scraping anyway, so we should just all agree to their terms of service and start federating with them and become one big happy family". It's just good old anti-defederation rhetoric.