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The Biden administration in recent days quietly authorized the transfer of billions of dollars in bombs and fighter jets to Israel despite Washington’s concerns about an anticipated military offensive in southern Gaza that could threaten the lives of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians.

The new arms packages include more than 1,800 MK84 2,000-pound bombs and 500 MK82 500-pound bombs, according to Pentagon and State Department officials familiar with the matter. The 2,000 pound bombs have been linked to previous mass-casualty events throughout Israel’s military campaign in Gaza. These officials, like some others, spoke to The Washington Post on the condition of anonymity because recent authorizations have not been disclosed publicly.

The 2,000 pound bombs, capable of leveling city blocks and leaving craters in the earth 40 feet across and larger, are almost never used anymore by Western militaries in densely populated locations due to the risk of civilian casualties.

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[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago (31 children)

Fuck Joe Biden and any apologists. ‘bUt tRuMp iS gOnNa bE wOrSe!!’ Trump is worse, but this shit is happening right now, and being authorized by Joe fucking Biden.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago (21 children)

Right, but whether or not you vote, one of these two pro-genocide assholes will be president in the end. You not voting does not help the people of Gaza. It does not help anyone but you and you getting to say “well I refuse to vote for him!” And everyone claps you on the back for a job well done. And then if trump wins, those of us in this country will have less time to devote to the situation in Gaza because every goddamn day, we’ll be worried about that, plus whatever trump and his fascist cronies are doing to hold onto power illegally here. And then there will be nothing we can do for Palestine, because we will be fighting our own battles here. And that’s before we even discuss Republican climate policy—which literally none of us will survive four years of.

We don’t like voting for genocide light or genocide heavy. But trump will absolutely be an even worse case scenario for the Palestinian people. And he doesn’t give half a shit about what even “looks” better, so that vindictive prick will go full tilt with Israel. The democrats are facing calls from within their own party and from people who are sickened by what we’re seeing. And that might have an effect—maybe. But your and my anger at what’s happening in Gaza will only serve to spur the republicans/trump into an even crueler tact.

Whether we like it or not, these are the choices we have. And none of us fucking like it. But that doesn’t stop it from being reality. We all see how shitty this is. No one that gives a shit about the people of Gaza are happy about it, but we’re realistic.

Again, your not voting and telling other people not to, does not help the people of Gaza. Keeping trump away from the situation actually has a chance of us seeing the pressure actually change things.

It’s not a pretty situation, it’s so far from ideal that it’s sickening. But we have to be realistic. And I fucking hate having to advocate for this. But it unfortunately makes the most sense.

[–] juicy -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Do all the mental gymnastics you want. A vote for Joe Biden is a vote for genocide. Period.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

So is voting for Trump so I dont think any of us are sure what this worthless platitude is supposed to elucidate.

[–] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

okay then who are you voting for?

[–] juicy 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cornel West or Jill Stein probably

[–] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

and you're calling other people deluded

[–] juicy 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

will it be clean if trump wins after you threw your vote away?

[–] juicy 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Throwing my vote away would be voting for someone whose policies I find to be despicably evil.

[–] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

You have every other day to advocate for what you feel is right, ultimately voting for anyone other than Biden is indisputably contributing to a worse outcome for the Palestinian people. How much does your conscience matter if your actions directly help a fascist win? Get real

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

What's a vote for Trump then?

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