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[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Iraq was bad so let's let Russia annex any bit of Europe it wants. Checks out. I was vehemently opposed to Iraq. This is not Iraq. Not all wars are the same

[–] bumphot@lemy.lol -1 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I never said we should let Russia annex anything, you are assuming that because I am against NATO expansion that I am pro Russia.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

No. I'm not assuming youre pro Russia. I think that you think that Russia is militarily impotent, given that you said as much. And that is on my opinion, wrong: see Crimea, Georgia, Ossetia, Moldova amongst others. Absent NATO, they've been invading and occupying neighbours quite happily. There's a demonstrable threat to which NATO is a demonstrable defense

[–] bumphot@lemy.lol 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can't seriously compare Russia and NATO by military power. They are competent to keep small regions under control, but they don't have even a small portion of the world wide power that NATO has.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I did not and was not comparing the power of NATO to Russia.

You said "[PUTIN] can't even win a war in a small country right next to his."

I pointed out that this was false, as evidenced by the number of small countries next to his that he's already annexed or invaded. Even Ukraine hasn't been able to repel Russia even with western aid.

Please stop trying to move the goalposts.

[–] bumphot@lemy.lol 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am not moving the goalposts, I am trying to put things into context rather then nitpicking every single sentence and strawmaning every argument. I speak in general terms, as I am not a robot. Everything I say is in a general political context.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Expecting you to mean what you actually said is not a strawman. If you meant something else then clarify rather than argue an amorphous moving general vibe.

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