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submitted 1 year ago by Bicyclejohn@lemmy.ml to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

At the moment the internet is flawed, do you think the fediverse is the solution?

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[-] gredo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

But couldn't it be made easier? Who cares which server a community or a user is registered on. I register where a friend sent me the link to and from there on it shouldn't matter and could be handled in the background.

The big sites are also not one central instance. They have several distributed instances all managed by the same company.

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Future instance owners and moderators don't want users and communities to be able to migrate seamlessly. Mastodon has the same fatal flaw. They want to keep your history and relationships hostage so you can't leave. This is the only thing turns signup to Lemmy and Mastodon into an important decision you don't want to get wrong. That's why you have to read and read and read before signing up and be a Lemmy expert before choosing the right instance for you.

Of course by this time 99% of users have gone back to Reddit. And the 1% that stays still feels like a huge wave.

Also many elitists are happy signup is clunky, it filters out the rif raf and the common Joe. It creates an exclusive space where everyone uses Linux, loves anime and don't like sports.

A place with no cultural relevance ree from eternal September.

[-] gredo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Well there's also techies who don't (only) use Linux and like (some) sports. More of a Sci-Fi and Comic Book guy than anime here.

Let's see how this grows.

[-] KelsonV@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Mastodon has the same fatal flaw. They want to keep your history and relationships hostage so you can’t leave.

You can migrate your relationships to a new Mastodon server.

And while you can't directly transfer the history (the debate over how/whether to do this has gone on for literally years), you can export an archive you can keep locally, and there are tools out there to parse it and convert it to some other form (static website, whatever). Someone's probably written an importer by now, though I'd have to look.

[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Future instance owners and moderators don’t want users and communities to be able to migrate seamlessly. Mastodon has the same fatal flaw

This is misrepresentative for a few ways.

For one, you can in fact migrate your mastadon account, fairly easily in fact.

For another thing, instance owners and moderators don't really get to choose whether migration is possible, the code contributors do. I suppose instance owners could start forking their own version of lemmy to make that harder, but ultimately there will always be folks willing to host the "best" version, and so people will just leave

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