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[–] force@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I can't seriously believe that Chinese people didn't abuse psychoactive substances before they discovered the joy of British opium

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

British

Also Imperial Britain was a monarchy, not a free country. Brunacho's comment makes zero sense.

[–] force@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

To be fair just before the time of the opium wars they were relatively far along in their process of converting to a democracy.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

they were relatively far along in their process of converting to a democracy.

A country with an unelected House of Lords is still not a free democracy.

[–] FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

The wackiest thing is that it's often the Lords who have stopped the Commons enacting some really authoritarian stuff!

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Chinese people enjoyed opium for centuries before the Opium wars. Opium was a legal and commonly traded item, and it was only since the 1790s that the imperial court started to worry about the effects of abuse.

And even ~1000 years before then, Wu Shi San was a popular, but toxic psychoactive drug used by the elite in China.

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[–] brunacho@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 7 months ago

they probably did, but there wasn't an abuse epidemic before