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They're openly allowing illegal immigrants to vote in federal elections now in Arizona. (i.redd.it)
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[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

How do you check that they are citizens without proof of citizenship?

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Does any country require proof? In Canada you just need an ID that confirms your name and address. No proof of citizenship is necessary. It's illegal for a non citizen to vote, but proof isn't necessary in order to vote.

The reason proof isn't required is because Canada doesn't issue proof of citizenship to all citizens. How can the government require people provide proof of citizenship if the government doesn't ensure all citizens have proof of citizenship?

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

We dont actually have a list of citizens. There is no way of knowing without proof of citizenship. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/the-supreme-courts-big-data-problem-118568/

Canada does have a list of citizens, thats the difference.

[–] EndOfLine@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is a guess, but I am assuming that when people register to vote (since that is not automatic, but rather an opt-in right in the United States), the person's information is sent to the local board of elections that can perform a search for the citizenship status of that individual.

I would expect the Arizona to already know if an individual is a citizen or not, so this requirement is more about preventing votes rather than securing the integrity of the voting process.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We dont actually have a list of citizens. There is no way of knowing without proof of citizenship. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/the-supreme-courts-big-data-problem-118568/

[–] EndOfLine@lemm.ee -1 points 7 months ago

I was thinking more that the documentation provided when registering to vote would be verified, not that a person would be looked up in a large centralized list.

But that was just a guess, the board of elections may just ruberstamp all requests for all I know about their processes.