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[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Damn. I never thougth about this, but have you ever noticed that this kind of memes are basically a one huge strawman fallacy? No offence OP, just a sudden thought.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How is this a straw man? I've literally had people tell me they don't want to eat soy because of the estrogen, while they eat cheese and dairy products.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

They're dumb, soy is great

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, any argument with an imaginary opponent is kinda a strawman if you think about it. I'm not doubting existence of such folks tho, there are lots of morons among people.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, it is not automatically a strawman. It's only such if it was intentionally contrived to support a particular position. An imaginary person used in a socratic dialog is clearly not automatically a strawman, for example. That would be tantamount to saying Socrates himself (potentially an imaginary person used by Plato for argumentative purposes) is nothing but a strawman.

Not only was the meme not a strawman, it was an incredibly common conversation that happens in real life dozens of times every day.

[–] lenz@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago

My dad literally refuses to touch soy because of this. Yet he dines on dairy products. It’s not a strawman. It’s straight up relatable.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How dare I post vegan memes in the vegan community right?

All the fucking carnists in the comments with their meatsplaining have nothing better to do.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago

Nah there are people genuinely out there spouting this, unfortunately a former friend of mine has become a tate/rogan person and this is one of the weird things spread around in those circles.