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It started with notebooks, but that wasn’t the master plan.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

I would love to see them make modular and repairable:

  • Phones
  • Tablets
  • 2-in-1s
  • Televisions
  • Monitors
  • Cameras
  • WiFi routers
  • Printers (copier, scanner)

Those things so often end up in the dump just because one small part fails, or gets too outdated. Think about all the parts in a wifi router that work just fine, but get thrown away anyway, because the radio module doesn’t support the shiny new WiFi version.

[–] Benaaasaaas@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Average people really don't care about newest wifi version, so I'd say routers are one of the longest living electronics in most households, unless they are rented out from your ISP who might be interested in updating it often to justify the rent.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

And if built it right it could last even longer than that, just upgrade the asics for the new standards instead of getting a whole new unit.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago

ISPs buy the cheapest reasonable equipment they can. When I have had equipment killed by lightning, the ISP's VDSL router has always been among the dead

It especially sucks that the ISP isn't following whatever standards there are, so other VDSL modems can't connect

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago

ISPs buy the cheapest reasonable equipment they can. When I have had equipment killed by lightning, the ISP's VDSL router has always been among the dead

It especially sucks that the ISP isn't following whatever standards there are, so other VDSL modems can't connect

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago

ISPs buy the cheapest reasonable equipment they can. When I have had equipment killed by lightning, the ISP's VDSL router has always been among the dead

It especially sucks that the ISP isn't following whatever standards there are, so other VDSL modems can't connect

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Printers. God that market sucks right now. I had to break down and get one recently and just feel dirty. I know I'm fucked when its eol

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

Brother laser printer

The only maintenance it needs is scraping the layers of dust off it occasionally 😂

[–] ky56@aussie.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I as far as I know the best OpenWRT AP's / Routers you can buy right now is the Banana Pi R64, R3, R4(Still in development). Open source firmware with a long support life of updates and security patches and a nice metal casing.

I say as far as I know because I have not bought one yet as I don't have the funds for that right now. It is my next AP replacement though.

[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 2 points 6 months ago

Music players (though I've preordered a Tangara, so hopefully that will be covered).

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I hope not phones. Fairphone has the repairable market, and that would take away from Framework as well as Framework taking away from Fairphone, making both weaker.

Maybe tablets would make sense, if you could reuse components from the laptops.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fairphone has the repairable market

In Europe.

Framework sells their products in more markets, including North America, which adds another 600 million potential customers.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This says you have been able to buy a Fairphone in the US since July last year, unless I've misunderstood?

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That's a third party who installs their own version of android on Fairphones and then sells them.

I'm in Canada, and they don't ship here. If I place an order as an American, all versions and variants are on backorder and there's no mention of parts availability.

So, no. They don't officially sell or support the North American market.

[–] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Options and competition are good things for consumers. Not sure why you would be against that.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 4 points 6 months ago

When you have a small market niche, competition can kill both companies. I'm not worried about options, I'm worried that soon both companies won't exist.

[–] ky56@aussie.zone 2 points 6 months ago

I think the only way it makes sense for Framework to get into the phone market is to follow the footsteps of Pine64 trying to create Linux phones. There's no point making a phone at an inherently higher cost to make it more durable and repairable with a "closed SDK" SoC that has a fixed EoL date. I made a more detailed comment about this in the main thread.