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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 112 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Because we're actually biped rats?

Just kidding. Grapes have lots of tartaric acid and, accordingly to this link, tartaric acid causes kidney failure in dogs.

Then accordingly to this link only 15~20% of the tartaric acid consumed by humans is eliminated in the urine; most of it goes to the large intestine, and gets metabolised by bacteria. So I guess that, unlike dogs, we avoid the kidney failure by avoiding sending it to the kidneys.

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Interesting, that makes sense, thank you. I looked this up like 3 times using google and duckduckgo and none of the results gave me a clear answer.

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

Doesn't matter post it here either way we want engagement here not in Google.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I searched this through DDG, but I likely used different prompts than you:

  • reason toxicity raisins dogs
  • reason toxicity grapes dogs
  • tartaric acid human toxicity metabolism

then parsed it into the answer I gave you.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How do I subscribe to your search engine?

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 13 points 6 months ago

If you want some tips on searching...

Split the problem into smaller parts. For example, you won't find good results comparing grape toxicity in dogs and humans; but you might get good results for dogs alone.

Use the info from one search to fuel other searches. For example, once I found that raw grapes were also poisonous to dogs, I shifted the query from raisins to grapes - because it's easier to find info on a fruit than on its processed form. I did this again once I discovered that tartaric acid was to blame, it allowed me to search for info specifically for humans.

Use keywords, not full sentences. All those "why", "is", "the" etc. only add noise, and make you land right into SEO-land.

Quotation marks and the minus sign. I did neither here, but use them deliberately, to force (quotation marks) or exclude (minus) results. The minus is specially useful against SEO.

[–] Mkengine@feddit.de 7 points 6 months ago

This is the first result when I search with Kagi, so maybe you should switch your search engine. With Google's degrading performance you hear more and more about alternative engines, for example Qwant and Metager are based in the EU and care a bit more about your privacy than their profit in comparison to Google.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

"Biped Rats"

Alright, I'm stealing that.