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[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The US would break them (and has always broken them) even if China wasn't around.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

How do you know? The US would be a different country if it wasn't targeted by Russia during the 2016 election. Russia made Trump. Russia made Brexit. How do we know how the world would look like if that hasn't happened?

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

PRISM

Bullrun

List of government mass surveillance projects

List of FBI controversies

List of CIA controversies

Human rights violations by the CIA

The CLOUD Act

This started long before the 2016 election and is deeply ingrained into the way the United States government operates. I'm definitely not saying China is innocent, but a lot of the US government's fears are rooted in projection. "We do it, so we must assume they do it too".

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

That's my point, all that shit was justified by pointing to Cold War enemies. Of course, no country exists in a vacuum, but if the US and the USSR hadn't been both engaged in a dick-measuring contest for a century, we would live in a different world. Both of them justified their horrendous human rights records by saying, "they are doing it too!"