A separate report published in Haaretz noted that the Israeli military was “compelled to request an aerial strike” against its own facility inside the Erez Crossing to Gaza “in order to repulse the terrorists” who had seized control. That base was filled with Israeli Civil Administration officers and soldiers at the time.

An Israeli woman named Yasmin Porat confirmed in an interview with Israel Radio that the military “undoubtedly” killed numerous Israeli noncombatants during gun battles with Hamas militants on October 7. “They eliminated everyone, including the hostages,” she stated, referring to Israeli special forces.

While being held by the Hamas gunmen, Porat recalled, “They did not abuse us. We were treated very humanely… No one treated us violently.”

She added, “The objective was to kidnap us to Gaza, not to murder us.”

https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/27/israels-military-shelled-burning-tanks-helicopters/

I'm aware that some of the hostages that were taken were children. All accounts suggest that they were treated well, for hostages anyway. Its important to recognize that the Zionist regime keeps thousands upon thousands of Palestinian hostages, many of which are children. The Zionists could have negotiated an exchange, ensuring the safe return of all Israeli hostages. Instead, they decided to bomb the living shit out of Gaza, pretty much ensuring their demise.

[–] thatirishguyyy 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yasmin Porat also discusses how they were used as human shields by Hamas. And other survivors have talked about the rape and murder by both Hamas and civilians.

If you trust Yasmin Porat's words, then by that same logic, the other women telling us that Hamas is raping and murdering hostages are telling the truth and the UN is complicit in pretending otherwise.

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

One cannot prove a negative. If you have evidence for your claims, then by all means feel free to provide it. Fwiw, the intercept has already done a fairly thorough debunking of the sexual violence claims made popular by the New York Times. The reporter had no credentials and the evidence provided turned out to be false.

https://archive.ph/dwzue

[–] thatirishguyyy 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If you think Hamas is the only group that doesn't commit rape and sexual assault during war then you are either delusional or purposely ignoring reality. I'm not sure which is more sad.

But here is a press release from the UN from just last month: https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15621.doc.htm

A few dozen top news stories, none of them NYT, about Hamas most likely committing sexual assaults and rape... vs your one Intercept article.

Also, keep in mind, rape survivors may not discuss sexual assault for years due to trauma.

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Typical lib brain. Always projecting the way that you feel you would behave in a situation on others. Gtfo with your disgusting war rape fantasies. There's a huge difference between an occupying imperialist army and a liberation one. Everything that the Zionists report is a lie. The death numbers reported by the health workers can't be trusted, yet we know that they're accurate if not underreported. The IDF is the most moral army and would never commit any war crimes, yet we know that they're committing war crimes daily, this has been established by the ICJ.

This isn't Iraq or Afghanistan. We live in a digitally connected world now and the war crimes can be seen everywhere. If this doesn't radicalize you against the Zionist regime, then you're a fascist.

[–] thatirishguyyy 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You really are the perfect target audience for tiktok. Perfect example of feelings over facts. Everything is zionist this or fascist that. I'm honestly surprised you haven't accused me of hasbara yet.

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Perfect example of feelings over facts.

Says the one who hasn't been able to come up with a single fact. I've shared a lot of evidence in this thread. Feel free to read through it, although I known you won't. You'll continue to support the fascist occupiers. Just like liberals did with Iraq and Afghanistan. Then 10 years later, you'll admit it was wrong, but you'll already have moved on to supporting the next imperialist occupation. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.

[–] thatirishguyyy 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You shared a single article the Intercept did. A single article. You haven't given anything other that ramblings and a single article. You keep spouting feelings and expect the conversation to shift. Just because you feel like this conversation is shifting doesn't mean it actually is.

Even the UN did a report and found the accusations were most likely credible.

You're both uneducated and delusional. Youbalso habe an inferiority conplex, that much is obvious in your ramblung. It's also obvious that you are brainwashed. Even the most hardcore Hamas supporters can admit that rape is prevalent in warzone, and this is no different. Even Palestinian supporters admit that rape happens in warzones.

You are literally trying to say that Hamas is the only group on the planet that wouldnt dare rape a women because... they are Muslims? These men are the only men who would dare rape a hostage, right?

Pedophilia, rape, amd muder run rampant in that part of the world and you still want to pretend that Hamas are innocent freedom fighters and the Jews are evil because there is no way a Palestinian would rape someone.

Next thing you'll tell me is that they enjoy religious and sexual freedom and that homosexuals aren't tossed from rooftops in the name of allah.