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[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What if I look at the theocratic ethno state that exists right now and listen to their leaders openly discuss how they must secure the existence of their people and a future for their jewish children by committing genocide? Cause the seems pretty nazi-like to me.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cause the seems pretty nazi-like to me.

Again, highly reductive.

You can claim that modern Israel is a fascist state, and that fascist states behave in similar ways. However, just calling it Nazism ignores the working history of both political ideologies.

The whole point is that for one to equate Zionism to Nazism requires you to ignore decades of historical context. Furthermore, equating Ukraine to a Nazi state ignores the fact that the vast majority (up to 7 million) Ukrainians fought for the Soviet Union in WW2 against the Nazi.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Using historical factoids to shield modern Nazi states from criticism is probably the most intellectually bankrupt thing you can do. Fuck off Nazi.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Using historical factoids to shield modern Nazi states

How and who exactly am I defending?

Just because you are engaged with colonialism or genocide, as Israel is currently doing, does not mean they are "modern Nazi states".

The Nazi did not invent these things, and generalizing every form of colonialism to equate to Nazism does nothing but excuse the hundreds of years of European imperialism that came before them, and the decades of imperialism that came after.