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Is Lemmy.world centralization worth fighting against? (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Blaze@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/fedigrow@lemm.ee

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Probably a very polarizing question.

On the one hand, having most of the users and communities on LW causes technical issues (see this post), and also gives the LW staff too much power over Lemmy as a whole.

On the other hand, with 18k MAU on LW out of 47k (https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy/), every community listed there has a much higher chance of visibility compared to an alternative hosted on another instance

History of LW controversial decisions

when they promoted Discord as an official communication channel (https://lemmy.world/post/3478399 - since then they created a Matrix chat)
when they blocked the piracy communities (https://lemmy.world/post/13320356 )
when they announced they might move from Lemmy to Sublinks (some comments from LW admins were quite controversial: https://lemmy.world/post/13899357 )
when they forced the media bias fact checker bot and discarded user feedback (https://lemmy.world/post/18775630 - to be fair, they since then removed it from !news@lemmy.world , it's still in !politics@lemmy.world )
when they realized centralization of communities on LW was impacting the ability of other instances to stay up to date (https://lemmy.world/post/13967373 )
when they updated their rules following a power trip overtake of a community (https://feddit.org/post/2308651 )

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[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I would prefer we didn’t give up on federation, but until the tools are in place to mechanically support it, I don’t see it as strictly beneficial.

A post a day in a community is a bot, more often than not, and trying to create discussion on bot posts often just falls on deaf ears.

I don’t see a reason to push for fragmentation at this time, but rather organically support active communities wherever they’re found.

I’d love for there to be a mechanical solution to fragmentation, so you don’t see so many duplicate posts in your feed and all those individual discussions are instead in one place.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A post a day in a community is a bot, more often than not, and trying to create discussion on bot posts often just falls on deaf ears.

In this case, I'm pretty sure it's not, it's a mix between @The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world, @garfaagel@sh.itjust.works, myself and a few others.

We had a nice discussion a few weeks ago about metal bands (https://dormi.zone/post/1721444)

organically support active communities wherever they’re found.

Makes sense

so you don’t see so many duplicate posts in your feed and all those individual discussions are instead in one place.

I guess at some points moderators of communities around a same topic will have to agree on where to host the community. The split between !android@lemmy.world and !android@lemdro.id still doesn't make sense to me today.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sorry I didn’t mean to imply your specific example was a bot, rather my experience when I find a community with high post rates and low engagements it tends to be a bot.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 months ago

No worries, I get what you mean.