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[–] suzune@ani.social 10 points 6 months ago (14 children)

The problem is the waste. Germany has radioactive waste and it couldn't find a suitable place to deposit it for over 30 years. I think it's still somewhere on rails or in temporary storages. It's horrible and they don't want to collect more of it.

Here is more about the problem that no one talks about: https://youtu.be/uU3kLBo_ruo

[–] Pietson@kbin.social 12 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Nuclear waste is a potential issue. Fossil fuel waste is a major issue right now.

The fact that the waste for nuclear is entirely contained is very good. It allows us to place it in permanent storage location like the one in Finland from your video, and perhaps even launch it off the planet in one or two centuries. There is no containing co2, only reducing.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Putting highly radioactive waste on a rocket is a bad, bad idea.

And guess what: solar and wind have neither CO2 nor nuclear waste as a product, and are cheaper to build and operate as well. Nuclear is comically expensive, and only gets by with massive state subsidies

[–] TheOtherThyme@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

And guess what: solar and wind canot take care of base load. Only oil, gas, coal, or nuclear can be run 24-7 with varying output in response to demand. Choose one.

[–] tmjaea@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Ever heard of electrical energy storage?

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

All of that is a solvable problem. We need to modernize the energy grid, because over large distances surplus and demand more easily equalize. Domestic energy consumption is fairly easy to cover with renewables and small to intermediate scale energy storage. The big consumers are heavy industry, and most of that can easily adapt by only running when there's a surplus. With how cheap renewables are, they'd likely even save money in such a scenario

[–] Forester@yiffit.net 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Sir, this is an emotional argument. Begone with your facts and logic.

[–] DdCno1@kbin.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Two people who have never heard of things like these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped-storage_hydroelectricity

This is a solved issue. Absolutely nobody who knows what they are talking about would claim that you can't run a country on renewables alone.

[–] Forester@yiffit.net 4 points 6 months ago

Pumped hydro storage requires massive dams to be constructed and massive amounts of habitat to be turned into artificial lakes. Also, we literally don't have enough water for that to be viable anywhere but the coasts

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