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[–] Zorque@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

However, the feminists that hate men do say “I hate men because I’m feminist”, which make a lot of men think that feminism is about hating men, before they have to chance to learn what feminism is really about.

Then maybe they should stop wallowing in ignorance and listen to something other than an extreme. It's still their choice to react rather than think about their positions. Making someone else change because you're too scared to do it first is lazy and cheap. There's no way to scream a rational position like there is an extreme position, and you're never going to get rid of them by reacting as they do.

Stop using them as an excuse for your unwillingness to change. They're not at fault for your choices.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I suggest you read my comment again. It seems like you are replying to another dude. I don't know what my "unwillingness to change" refers to.

I am a feminist suggesting that we should change the name from "feminism" to any other thing like "gender equality" or whatever.

Because a lot of people are politically lazy. They don't care to inform themselves about what "feminism" means, they just heard their Andrew tate telling them that it's a women-run society or whatever bullshit. Which would make sense if it's the first time you heard the term, it's right there "fem-something".

It's much easier to convince people that A means equal rights if A is called "equal rights". It works too well, some people even think that china is communist because it's ran by the communist party, and that the DPRK is democratic because the D stands for democratic.

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago

I agree, but words are important. Men will find it hard to relate to a movement called feminism. It's not just being uninformed. It's being excluded by the language.