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[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 57 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The real problem is convincing people there is a problem. I grew up in suburban America and almost everyone got a car when they turned 16. A 15 minute drive was considered not that far away. My bus ride to school was about 45 minutes. I went to college in a large dense city and it opened my eyes to how things could be so much better. Unfortunately most people who live where I grow up would say "you're going to get shot and die" if you get anywhere near a city.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The level of paranoia that suburbanites have about density is horrendously upsetting and intentional

Trying to tell a suburbanite that crime rates have fallen drastically over time is so damn hard

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Just look at per capita crime rates. US cities are typically less dangerous than suburban areas.

New York City has a per capita crime rate of 6.3 per 100,000.

Huntsville, AL has a crime rate of 387 per 100,000.

And that difference was actually a huge surprise to me when I just looked it up. But the problem is people look at the raw number of crimes committed and think cities are so dangerous. It's actually the opposite.

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Does that distinguish between violent crime vs property crime? I always heard that violent crime is a little higher in cities, while property crime is a lot higher in suburbs, but I never bothered to fact check because the (dense city) neighborhood I grew up in only had one stabbing in 20 years, so it seemed safe enough...

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 months ago

While I understand that not everyone is educated on these issues, I grew up in the suburbs and I always knew it was fucked, even if I didn’t know what a better system looked like. I really don’t understand how people can see that and think it’s somehow good.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago

Do they really think suburban and rural areas are different?