I'm seeing the opposite ideology as destructive though. Working with each other and the system to affect change is surely better than entrenching and dividing? You are saying it's bad to believe we can make the world a better place? What is more effective than believing that your country can do better? Shouldn't we be talking to each other instead of downvoting and blocking each other?

I don't understand much about what you want because you aren't talking about it. You just insult me.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The working class can not work with the bourgeoisie. The two have completely opposing interests. Anything that benefits the bourgeoisie comes from exploiting the working class, and anything that benefits the working class comes from reducing that exploitation by the bourgeoisie.

"Let's work together" is either the political theory of a child that understands nothing or the intentionally subversive lies by someone that does understand but wants to mislead others. You may as well be telling people in africa to work together with the colonial masters exploiting them.

Shouldn't we be talking to each other instead of downvoting and blocking each other?

Hexbear doesn't even have downvotes.

What is more effective than believing that your country can do better?

This isn't what you want. You do nothing except defend against criticism from people that want to make things better. Because your brain is full of nationalism and you can't help but leap to the defence of the state whenever it is criticised. This behaviour isn't because you want it to be better, it's because you view criticism as a threat.

[–] SamboT@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you, but what option do we have except working with the system?

I don't disagree that exploitation exists. It's hard for me to focus on that when I am benefitting from the exploitation of others.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Constructing a new system minus the limitations of the existing one.

[–] SamboT@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But that seems impossible.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Not impossible, merely very very difficult.

And the alternative is no change and a dying world. So there is no choice whatsoever.