863
submitted 1 month ago by mox@lemmy.sdf.org to c/technology@lemmy.world
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 103 points 1 month ago

non-flammable end use

Safe and stable chemistry

Oh neat, finally a non-explody and/or unstable battery lmao

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago

Well, only relatively.

In order to work batteries need to have a certain amount of instability built in, on a chemical level. Them electrons have to want to jump from one material to a more reactive one; there is literally no other way. There is no such thing as a truly "safe and stable" battery chemistry. Such a battery would be inert, and not able to hold a charge. Even carbon-zinc batteries are technically flammable. I think these guys are stretching the truth a little for the layman, or possibly for the investor.

Lithium in current lithium-whatever cells is very reactive. Sodium on its own is extremely reactive, even moreso than lithium. Based on the minimal lookup I just did, this company appears to be using an aqueous electrolyte which makes sodium-ion cells a little safer (albeit at the cost of lower energy density, actually) but the notion that a lithium chemistry battery will burn but a sodium chemistry one "won't" is flat out wrong. Further, shorting a battery pack of either chemistry is not likely to result in a good day.

[-] voracread@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

I believe it is still better due to raw material availability?

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

It is definitely that. That's kind of the point, actually. Sodium is easier to come by than lithium and does not require mining it from unstable parts of the world, nor relying on China.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

nor relying on China

The appeal of China is largely in the size of the labor force. Whether this tech is more or less feasible than cobalt and lithium, businesses will still want to exploit the large volume of cheap Chinese labor in order to build them.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'm sure they'll want to, but that'll be a little better than need to, i.e. relying on them for the raw materials as well.

[-] Wooki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

If you consider Australia unstable, sure, maybe for humans, the animals are fine unless you’re Steve Irwin, just dont go diving with stingrays

load more comments (31 replies)
load more comments (34 replies)
this post was submitted on 04 May 2024
863 points (99.2% liked)

Technology

55610 readers
2310 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS