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Hello Lemmy moderators!

The Lemmy.World administrator team is planning to release a Moderator Code of Conduct for Lemmy soon.

Even though there will be some basic principles we will follow, which can be found here, we still need your valuable input. We'd like to hear your suggestions on what to add to this Code of Conduct, as you know best about what you want and need.

This Code of Conduct would lay out the official rules, set principles and goals for Lemmy.World moderators, and for any other instance that wishes to follow it.

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The Lemmy.World Administrator (Team)

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[–] PriorProject@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are some offenses from which we can't reasonably expect people to "learn" from...

People always learn something, though not always what one is trying to teach. Immediate permanent bans often teach them to make an alt and come back with the same attitude and a chip on their shoulder. Temp bans leverage their investment in their existing account to either encourage them to leave the community they're not welcome in or return with a better understanding of the rules.

Do temp bans work every time? No, definitely not. Are permanent bans trivially circumvented in a federated ecosystem with not even the barest of account verification policies? Yes, definitely... which means permabans are a much weaker response here than in other spaces with better account verification. I'd submit that escalating temp bans are a strictly superior in such an environment because investment in one's existing account is very nearly the only leverage mods have and should be maximized.

[–] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The exact behavior you describe with people circumventing permabans has already happened in my community with a temp ban. Person made multiple accounts on other instances to circumvent a temp ban for excessive self promotion of their own stuff (to the point of spam). We tried escalating temp bans and it didn't work, they just did that anyway.

I advocate for permabans for egregious violations for two reasons: acknowledgement that there's zero tolerance for truly abhorrent behavior and to decrease the bookkeeping of keeping track of multiple temp bans. An escalating temp ban system works for minor offenses where a permanent ban isn't warranted, though.

[–] recursive_recursion@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I advocate for permabans for egregious violations for two reasons: acknowledgement that there's zero tolerance for truly abhorrent behavior and to decrease the bookkeeping of keeping track of multiple temp bans. An escalating temp ban system works for minor offenses where a permanent ban isn't warranted, though.

I think your suggestion strikes a good balance as outright banning toxic behavior such as racism can act as a clear signifier that actions like it are contradictory and unwanted especially in reference(context) to the community's goals and TOS