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Are right wingers creating FUD around Signal? (hachyderm.io)

submitted 6 months ago by DaseinPickle@leminal.space to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

telegram is the real FUD here. its closed, not encrypted by default and all messages go through a centralized server.

[+] rdri@lemmy.world -12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

not encrypted by default

Not e2e encrypted ≠ not encrypted.

its closed

Client is open source and you can use your own client with custom functionality if you like. I imagine nothing stops anyone from adding their own e2e implementations on top of it.

[–] brayd@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

SSL on websites also is encryption. Still you can post your precious pictures "encrypted" via SSL for the whole world to see. I think everyone knew what was meant with encryption in this context.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

i know but neither encryption, nor foss clients matter much if it has to go through a closed server. thats kind of half the point of encrypting stuff. at least telegram supports it but cmon.

its like saying facebook is private because your browser is foss and you use https.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago

Anything goes through closed servers. Even more, serverless chat protocols tend to go through multiple users PCs (they are not open to you).

point of encrypting stuff. at least telegram supports it

I'm pretty sure telegram doesn't support plaintext transfers.

its like saying facebook is private

I didn't call telegram private.