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[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 89 points 6 months ago (5 children)

This shit actually hurts my soul. This is the type of shit as to why we might not make it. We have the technology to mitigate climate change yet we don't because those in power don't want to see their power decrease. It's a serious reason why we might not make it. How do we even begin to take direct action? I really have no clue, this entire planet, life as we know it, is entirely fucked if we don't do something soon. The US government gave billions to implement charging infrastructure and the corps did jack SHIT with it, the government has become the corps fuck pig, bent over dishing out money while getting fucked.

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Might not make it? Sorry man we're literally looking down the barrel of end times.

Human greed can only be stopped when the earth has nothing left to give.

This is the reality we all exist in and 99% of us are powerless to change it, unless we all collectively agree to (spoiler we're not gunna).

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It only takes 1/4 of a population to effect change.

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yay but seriously 0.25 aren't rising up anytime soon either.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Don’t lose hope, otherwise, they’ve already won.

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Nah, we're not powerless, and we don't all have to collectively agree. We have so many technologies that have been developed over the past several decades that can help solve this problem. Change is constant, this kind of shit is just another bump in the road.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

this kind of shit is just another bump in the road.

I assume you are younger.

I am in my 50s. The risk of this shit was known and tought to children in schools in the 1980s.

Yet at every level. Things have gotten worse. We had solar in the 80s. Less efficient but only about 15% rather then the 20% we see now. But tax payer money in all western democracy. Was still funding oil research not batts wind or solar.

Cars became bigger and less efficient as we watched. GM was known to have destroyed its own ev production pack in the 90s.

Nothing at all was invested in building inferstructure to support other fuel types. Again dispite huge public investment in oil.

And at every 0ossible point. What little that was done was aimed at indeviduals who have the least control. While corperations were allowed to keep expanding there use. Without facing any of the costs for replacement.

Its a bump. But a 40plus year bump built intentionally to slow and limit changes in the way wealth is made.

With so much false science and outright lies from corperations its insane.

Exxon the plastics industry and many other. Behaived much worse the the cigarette industry did before them. And have not had to pay anything for there intentional and informed damage to billions of lives. Where as at least in nations with real health care options. Tobbaco companies have lost lawsuits and paid a fortune since discovery.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

courts will call that precedent in the future, or would anyway, if we weren't all dead.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because they'd rather live their life believing they couldn't change anything than believe they had a chance to change something and missed it.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Shit no dawg. We've had loads of chances to fix it, but one half of the political divide actually wants to end the world so they can get raptured and shit cuz they only believe lies. Most of the population is just people doing what they're supposed to and assuming others are doing the same. Apologies for not joining a radical cell and blowing shit up i guess... short of that, i mean, you can't even talk about killing the people who need killing in any public forum let alone make a plan for it, and actually doing it would require, you know, snipers and shit, so...

I mean, you're probably American. Y'all the ones with weapons out the wazoo. If that were useful, somebody would have paired up and done something about it by now. Obviously it's not, which is good news, cuz it means you can put all that gung-ho rhetoric away and join the rest of us, but i mean yeesh, that was a lot of sound and fury just to signify nothing, nawm sayin?

[–] Vivendi@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

EVs are garbage anyways. The only way to actually save anything is to migrate most of the commonly occurring transportation to public electric systems like trains.

EVs are made in a non sustainable manner by raping the earth for the last scraps of rare earth materials, they're hardly the answer

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Certainly correct, we still need a path to direct action and it needs to be everywhere.

[–] triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 6 months ago

19 downvoters bringing a strong "shooting the messenger" energy

[–] LappingDog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

Is there a number on the break even point where it’s better for the environment to buy a new EV than to keep driving an old ICE vehicle? I bike most days when I don’t need to buy more than a backpack of groceries or go more than 3 miles. Surely when you consider the carbon cost of refining materials and constructing a whole new vehicle, it doesn’t make sense in most situations for people who drive less than 30 minutes a day on average. This is of course assuming you have a current vehicle, new vehicles should have to be hybrid/EV in the modern era.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

It's not a might at this point.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

bro we're so far past this lol

it's been too late for probably a decade now, get ready to starve cuz there's only a couple years left