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Top picture is silver medalist Thomas Paine from the 1896 Summer games, the first year with a shooting competition. Bottom is gold medalist Vitalina Batsarashkina from the 2020 games.

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[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I'd say this is a good example of letting materials science go overboard and destroy the spirit of the sport.

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Today, they use the most precise guns that are available with current tech.
Back then, they did the same.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's cool and all, but it makes breaking records pointless. There needs to be clear delineation between equipment changes and world records.

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You could argue the same for improved nutrition and training methods today's athletes have access to.
There are sports contests using vintage equipment, but the public interest in them is much lower. Most people enjoy watching numbers go up every year.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

There should definitely be delineation between the eras when PEDs became commonly available. We all know that just about every professional athlete uses PEDs at one point or another. On that subject, a billionaire bought the record setting home run ball hit by Barry Bonds, had an asterisk laser engraved into it, and then donated it to the MLB hall of fame. LOL, total Chad move.

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Could also argue the more precise the machine the better it tests the coordination of the human

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You could also argue that reducing the need to dynamically compensate for the variance of a more traditional firearm is a key part of the coordination.

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

You could indeed. Practical shooting competitions are more interesting.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is just a very specific tangent. It is obviously different than the baseline shooting experience. It would be difficult to mistake this kind of target shooting for anything resembling practical shooting. That's alright. It can exist as its own thing.