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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (8 children)

What I find amusing is that the primary season hasn't even officially ended yet. The convention is in August. There are numerous states that haven't even cast a ballot for Biden. And we're already absolutely inundated with "You have to vote for him or you're a traitor to your nation!" hyperbole.

You'd think people could at least save their most hysterical outcries until the general election season has officially started. But no. Everyone on Lemmy is expected to bend the knee right now, at this very instant, because otherwise Trump might become President... six months early?

There's simply no room in the political calendar for any kind of criticism of the sitting President.

[–] edgesmash@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Biden hasn't been great. He dragged his feet on issues he campaigned on (e.g., student debt relief), he sounds eve older than he is, and perhaps most gallingly, he didn't unequivocally renounce the genocide in Gaza immediately. Inflation sucks and wages aren't high enough for most to survive, let alone thrive. I can name a dozen progressives off the top of my head I'd rather have as president.

First past the post voting and the two-party system give us little chance at the national level for meaningful fast change.

But have you seen the shit Trump has promised he will do as president? We all learned an important lesson from the first Trump presidency: take him seriously, not literally. I shouldn't need to list the things Trump has promised to do, but here's a highlight reel:

  • Enthusiastically support Israel's "invasion" of Gaza
  • Waste billions on a useless border wall
  • Deploy the military domestically to "fight crime", "coincidentally" in blue states
  • Slash federal education spending and let states handle their own education
  • Repeal background checks, reopen the gun show loophole, roll back federal laws against gun trafficking, and make it easier for kids under 21 to get guns
  • Undo Title IX trans rights

And he won't stand in the way of any of the Project2025 insanity the GOP wants to pursue.

So, on the left, you have an old man who has maybe made things a little better for some too slowly while ignoring a genocide. On the right, you have an old man who endorses that same genocide, promises to make the country an actively worse place for many, and who has empirically proven he will encourage and endorse insurrection and treason to stay in power.

The best play for the future is two-pronged:

  1. For the medium/far future: push for electoral reform like IRV/ranked choice voting at the local/state level (to get people used to it), endorse third-party candidates, run for local office, donate time/money to causes that matter to you.
  2. For the near term, to allow the first bullet point to take root and thrive: Don't let Trump get elected, which means, unfortunately, voting for Biden.
[–] archomrade@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Democrats can't win without the progressive caucus, and even in the most conservative part of a largely leftist social media site and the best thing that people who claim to be left are saying is 'Biden was a shit president and I fucking hate having to vote for him'

Does anyone here really think Biden can rely on progressives right now? Honestly, maybe everyone here would say they'd do it anyway, but who here actually thinks a majority of leftists would show up for that POS?

If Biden is steadfast on this position on Isreal he loses. There's no amount of street-corner-preaching about the end of days that will convince leftists to vote for Biden.

[–] edgesmash@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

You're right that I left a crucial element out of my admittedly simplistic two step process. We should pressure Biden to be better and to stop supporting the genocide in Gaza.

I consider myself to be solidly left, maybe not full-on progressive but supportive of many progressive policies. And I think Biden has been a good president when you consider the context he's been given. I don't have time to write it all out now, but if I did, I'd be glad to argue that Biden had been a good (not great) president. I think the millions who have had their student debt cancelled, bought OTC birth control, got off unemployment and into a job would agree.

Granted, Biden's campaign hasn't done a good job, groceries are still too damned expensive, and he hasn't stopped the genocide in Gaza. But, save a violent nationwide revolution, the 2024 presidential ballot is Biden vs. Trump. And, on the issue of the genocide, Trump has demonstrated he'd be an enthusiastic supporter of Israel, much more than Biden.

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