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Judge Denies Alec Baldwin’s Bid to Dismiss Manslaughter Indictment (www.nytimes.com)

submitted 6 months ago by simple@lemm.ee to c/moviesandtv@lemm.ee

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[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Handing a firearm to someone with no knowledge of it is the #1 biggest fuck-up in the book

And that's why it's the job of the trained progessional to explain to them exactly what to and not to do with that weapon once handed over.

You should know this if you are "fully aware of the rules" as you claim.

I do, it's just fucking irrelevant.

If what you're saying is true then nobody should ever have been shot on set, right?

Yes, just like every other film set that handles guns. The entire point of a criminal trial is the fact that someone didn't do their job and someone fucking died. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Imagine that, when you have a single point of failure, things fail.

Your lack of any understanding of film set weapon safety makes you look stupid again. There's more done on set for safety than just handing someone a weapon and giving them a 2 second once-over. For example: the people not in shot should not be downrange of the weapon, or if they MUST be for some reason then they're behind bulletproof materials.

Movie sets are different from normal use-cases for guns and thus operate under different safety rules. If you followed the rules of standard firearm safety on a movie set then you'd be unable to film. The rules have been adjusted to accommodate this, and they work. That's why it's incredibly rare that this happens.

[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 2 points 6 months ago

Alright, fine, I concede my point. Movies do shit differently. I still think it's fucking stupid, and someone did literally die from it as evidenced by the very post we are arguing in the comments of. But I'm not an actor having dipshits point loaded guns at me so why do I care I guess. You win I'm stupid, because respecting the laws of firearm safety apparently makes me the dumbest motherfucker on the planet, and there is no point in time ever that someone hands me a supposedly safe gun and I'm not going to immediately double check it myself.

I am very salty about this still but I've made both of us angry enough over some stupid bullshit tonight. Sorry for wasting your time. This was not productive for either of us.

[–] Rivalarrival 1 points 6 months ago

Movie sets are different from normal use-cases for guns and thus operate under different safety rules

Correct. However, you will still be judged by the standards of the original ruleset, and not by how well you followed your own.

Baldwin did the firearm equivalent of cruising through a red light at 80 miles an hour without asking if anyone had actually closed the intersection. His excuse that it was a movie set does not exempt him from liability.