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Help me understand? (sopuli.xyz)

submitted 3 months ago by Klanky@sopuli.xyz to c/uap@lemmy.world

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So I've been doing a deep dive into all this stuff recently, I find it to be fun and interesting. However, I'm having trouble figuring out exactly what all these whistleblowers are alleging. Basically, the idea is that there is a secretive group of USG employees that know what is going on with UAPs and researching stuff, but Congress and the President know nothing of it and have no oversight of it? Is it just a bunch of high-ranking military people who pass the knowledge on to their successor when they retire? Or is the idea that all of these whistleblowers and Congress are in on it and this is all part of a slow 'controlled disclosure' scenario? Or is it a combined scenario where some members of the Executive Branch DO know about it but others don't?

Obviously, there are no hard and fast answers to this, I just feel like I keep hearing conflicting things about who in the USG knows what, and wondering if there is any kind of rough consensus about this? Probably a fools errand, but I figured I'd at least ask.

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[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In a word: Yes.

As in all the above to greater/lesser degrees.

While theoretically the president has authority to know about all of this, the reality is people/groups very likely obfuscate their behaviour/projects/agendas in myriad ways.

So fo any of us not closely connected to any particular story/allegation/project, the likelihood of learning anything with any veracity is highly unlikely.

I say this as someone with family in both military and aerospace who have varying clearances (fairly run-of-the-mill stuff, nothing significant), and I can tell when they avoid subjects which could expose they know something (again, nothing to do with UAP, just mundane tech, things like materials tech or current/past intel capabilities).

If they won't even talk about mundane stuff from multiple decades ago (I've looked at military records, which give hints to what they were involved with), I'm pretty sure anytime we hear supposed "secret" intel, it's likely to have been carefully orchestrated for a specific goal.