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[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

the people who invaded in the first place

Where have you been for 8 years? 2014-2022

What do you know of the modern "civil conflict" in Ukraine? Do you know what happened in 2014? Are you aware of who began massacring who that year?

(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_have_you_been_for_eight_years%3F#:~:text=%22Where%20have%20you%20been%20for,pointing%20out%20to%20what%20Ukraine)

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Holy shit, NATOpedia made an article saying "Hey, there might be actual historical context to this situation and Putin didn't wake up on February 24th and decide to murder a bunch of people because he's a very evil bad bad man and King Zelensky shall slay the dragon and then we all live happily ever after." is actually Russian disinformation? Oh my fucking god. These people are unbearable.

[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 1 year ago

It's so fucking funny. I shared it semi-ironically (the Russian bots are inside your walls) but I also want it to serve as an example of liberal anti-communist biases that permeate Wikifedia and hopefully an exercise for our more liberal acquaintances to practice their critical reading skills.

Hey, that time the Ukrainian state killed people? It wasn't TECHNICALLY an attempted genocide, according to our sixth-time revised definition of the term (rev. 2022). We know they TECHNICALLY outlawed the spoken and written language of a major plurality of their people and TECHNICALLY killed 14,000+ of them, but like, it wasn't a genocide. Russia is doing the genocide. Because Putler is ebil.

It's amazing how thin the veneer of understanding is on empire defenders. They cannot even keep their criticisms of international and national policy differentiated, when it comes to attacking anti-imperialists it's always both. No examination of political economy or national histories, just democratic good guys and auforitarian bad guys.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow. I've been asking people that question since February 2022 and I have yet to receive a single Ruble from Mr. Putin. angery

[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I recall talking with my friends about Ukraine being a Nazi state in 2020. It was just a fucked up thing all of us knew. I suppose I ought to wash my brain of that vivid memory, lest I become a kremlin apologist ex post facto.