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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago (27 children)

That’s probably because your president is committing mass genocide of Ukrainians by abducting 700,000 of their children to be raised as Russians.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-07-31-23/h_169f15b2ddbb285cc94c1f0e1ee21080

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Do you think a random Russian citizen who is trying to leave Russia has anything to do with this?

Many of the people trying to leave Russia are against the war. It is idiotic to shame civilians who have little to no power to stop the actions of their oligarch run government.

[–] the_wise_wolf@feddit.de 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

She says:

I can't stand it anymore because our real nationality is strong

Not sure what to make of this. We only have a video of an upset girl. Is she being treated unfairly? Who the fuck knows. All I know is that it plays perfectly into the Kremlin's propaganda: We are the good guys and the world hates us for no good reason.

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think Kremlin propaganda involves runaways seeking life elsewhere. Particularly their young women. That's a really bad look for Russia.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Kremlin propaganda constantly involves polishing a turd until it shines. They're going to have that 'bad look' one way or another, how do they twist it to make it work for them.

Turds are all they ever have, and they shine them well.

[–] the_wise_wolf@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Actually, it does. It says that the Russian people have nowhere to go. Their only option is to band together (behind Putin).

Edit: Oh, btw. I'm not saying that this video is definitely part of a propaganda campaign. She could also be a victim of propaganda.

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The claim is that she is a civilian, not a soldier. The video in no way suggests that soldiers

are the good guys and the world hates us for no good reason.

Disliking the actions of a government is very different from disliking an entire people based on nationality.

[–] the_wise_wolf@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your line of reasoning is very hard to follow. You are alternating between soldiers/civilians and people/individuals. You are arguing against a point I never made. You are not engaging with my concerns. So let me state this again. The video is highly emotional, completely one-sided. Contains no concrete information. And fits perfectly into the Kremlin's propaganda. I wonder if all these Mexicans still hate her after she tells them that she disagrees with Putin and his war.

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago

Do you think Westerners should hate the Russian people (civilians) because Putin is waging war?

If you say no, then you are in agreement with the person in the video, and by your own logic, have fallen for "Kremlin Propaganda".

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 3 points 1 year ago

Russias "nationality" has boiled quite down to hail putin so there's that.

There is no "good old russia" any more.

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