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[–] TheDeepState@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (44 children)

Why does Biden support genocide?

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago (17 children)

If Trump were in office, he'd be endorsing the rape torture and abuse explicitly. If we lived in an alternate universe and Hillary was on her second term, she'd do nothing to stop Isreal and keep weapons flowing, if Obama was on his fourth term, he'd do nothing, if W was on his 6th term? We would still be in a perpetual war with multiple countries in the middle east and Israel would be a key supporter. He would probably help with the genocide with boots on the ground.

A large portion of the reason Isreal never reached a settlement with Palistine and kept up with their perpetual war and ethnic cleansing is due to the US preferring they do it this way. Obama's foreign policy was to do whatever the military suggested, as his administrative advisers said ''A Democrat can't say no to the military''. Bush's administration never even bothered to have internal justifications for any military endeavor. Trump is the most evangelical president we've ever had, he constantly did whatever evangelicals wanted, and war in Isreal, antagonism and aggression to Arab nations is one of their top priorities, as according to their beliefs Jesus will not come again until the Temple is rebuilt, sacrifices are made, and a world war or multinational middle eastern war against Isreal happens, once they have nearly been destroyed THEN Jesus comes again. Hillary likely would have the same policy Obama did, let the military do whatever it wants so you don't get called soft of foreign policy in the next election cycle.

Biden likely has the exact same policy. Like so many issues in the US, even in our fantasies there's no alternative to what horrible shit were doing now.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Biden is the president now.

Regardless as to what happens in a few months, the current sitting US president through action and inaction is endorsing genocide. It doesn't matter who else exists, because the office isn't held by anyone else.

We should be able to have a conversation about human rights abuses without invoking the name of someone worse.

I don't imagine many people are on the fence about who they're going to vote for and constantly screaming about the Cheeto any time criticism of the president is brought up really only serves as admission that yeah, Biden is that bad.

All I see is deflection, constantly. No one wants to talk about Biden, successes or failures. It's as if the only exists as a comparison to Trump. And if a candidate only looks good when compared to a pile of shit, then he isn't a good candidate.

[–] kiagam@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I mean, I read the response you replied to as "it not just biden, it is the system as a whole, and anyone that ever got close to being president".

And I agree. every president you have, there is some unjust war you are involved. As americans get pissed with their president, the rest of the world just rolls their eyes and says "here they go again".

genocides are gonna keep happening as long as you keep voting for these dumbasses in your primaries. And I can't see the situation changing anytime soon.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you can find someone who has a chance of winning and will do something than please point them out

[–] kiagam@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

my quick reply would be Bernie Sanders

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

And the democrats did everything they could to make sure he would not win the primary in spite of how popular he was. There is no winning.

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately in the US running for president has serious financial barriers. Even the wealthy people who run need to appeal to corporate sponsors(I personally call this corruption, but the Supreme Court apparently decided it's not.)

I don't know how we are ever going to get a decent human being as a candidate until that changes, and I don't know how to change it. We can vote, but only for whoever has money, and none of those candidates seem to even acknowledge this is a very serious problem. It's not even on their political radar, so it's not a talking point.

Plus, even if a decent, non corrupt person managed to make it to the primaries and win.... the electoral college could just vote the corrupt candidate in anyway.

Sorry rest of the world... I wish our system wasn't totally fucked.

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