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Labour in its current incarnation has a great deal of problems, but they absolutely are not as bad as the Conservatives. I don't think they're going to improve things much, but the current government is basically just flailing about trying to figure out which combination of asylum seekers, trans people, disabled people, and the EU they need to throw bricks at to stay in power. This party brought us Brexit, the Rwanda deportation plan, the "hostile environment", Liz Truss' entire premiership, and one of the worst covid death rates in the world. Labour's opposition to those things has left much to be desired, but fucking hell at least they weren't throwing their full weight behind each one
Fair enough. So if I understand you correctly, this isn't really about Labor having any positive policies, but more that they won't actively make things much worse.
Btw, on the Rwanda plan, didn't Starmer say in the debate he'd do that if it complied with international law? EDIT: I'm wrong, he said he'd do third country processing of migrants if it complied with international law.
That's my opinion on it, at least. Which sucks, but it's a clear improvement.
Starmer's recent comments have all been that he intends to scrap the Rwanda policy if elected. If he has said otherwise I'm open to being corrected, of course. In contrast, the Conservative policy has openly been to ignore international law and change domestic law to facilitate the deportations
I went back to double-check what I'd heard from the horse's mouth. I misunderstood the first time (they had just finished talking about Rwanda). This was in relation to third country processing of migrants.
They are open to third country processing but as far as I understand it it wouldn't be their main objective. They have said, a repeatedly said, is that they will open processing centers in France, which was always the sensible option and was rejected by the Conservatives so they could continue to use immigration as red meat for their diminishing voter base.
No one talked about immigration until the conservatives took power.
I think it's also important to draw a distinction between third country processing and the Rwanda policy. Those sent to Rwanda do not get processed for asylum in the UK. If their claim is accepted, they get asylum in Rwanda.