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what are the pros and cons of apt vs flatpak? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 5 months ago by merompetehla@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I like flatpak as it helps me keep bloat down. I always find that native packages eventually pollute the system. Flatpaks do somewhat as well but I can manually delete the app storage if necessary

[–] Samueru@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I like flatpak as it helps me keep bloat down

Impossible. Like flatpak itself with 5 applications was using more storage than my entire distro with the same apps as appimages on top.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I can't say I have the same experience. Flatpaks keep everything tidy and most GUI stores offer the option to delete app data on uninstall

[–] Samueru@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

How big is your distro right now?

I am at 4.2 GIB with my distro (artix) + 30 appimages + home. Though stuff like ~/.local/steam is on a different partition.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'll have to look but I have 6-7 VMs so 4.2Gb is child's play. My SSD is 256Gb so I have plenty of room

[–] Samueru@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know storage doesn't matter these days, but another different thing is suggesting flatpak "because it keeps bloat down".

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Storage isn't everything. Having separate isolated storage locations keeps the cluster down and prevents conflicts. Plus if I need to change something it is easy to find.

[–] Samueru@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I do that with appimages as they support a portable home. And that location can be moved around.

You can't get bubblewrap sandboxing with appimages in a user friendly way though, but I think I will start working on that (yes I'm serious).

Flatpak hardcoded ~/.var which I found a really bad decision and they had several issues opened on this which went really bad if you ask me:

https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/46

https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak.github.io/issues/191

https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/1651

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago

True, especially the dotfiles. Having them separated in individual per-app directories is awesome