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Putin goes on to say

”Our proposal is not to freeze the conflict, like how the west wants it, but to end it. I repeat, this is not to freeze the conflict, but for its final completion.”

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[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 66 points 5 months ago (17 children)

History begins in the winter of 2022 of course

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago (16 children)

Including more history is not to Putin's credit.

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 63 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You uh

You wanna expand on that or are you going to pretend you got an epic mic drop own

Because I have no fucking clue what you're trying to say

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No mic drop intended, just replying fast to a few people.

I guess before I figure out which way to expand on it I need a baseline, do you believe history will look fondly on Putin?

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

No, I don't. He represents the worst of the collapse of the Soviet Union. He runs a staunchly conservative, queerphobic nation that's put a number of my friends in real material danger simply for existing, and they can scarcely tell me about it because of how tightly the state cracks down on that

How history will view him depends on how the war shakes out and who you're asking and why. He's been a leader - or around the reins of power - for a very long time, and I don't see him as innocent or blameless in the events that bring us to the invasion. This was a collision thirty odd years in the making, and Great Man Theory fucking sucks as an analysis of history

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